Legislature(2001 - 2002)

03/14/2001 01:40 PM Senate JUD

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                     ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                   
                    SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE                                                                                
                          March 14, 2001                                                                                        
                             1:40 p.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Robin Taylor, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Dave Donley, Vice Chair                                                                                                 
Senator John Cowdery                                                                                                            
Senator Gene Therriault                                                                                                         
Senator Johnny Ellis                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All Members Present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARINGS - Commission on Judicial Conduct, Alaska                                                                  
Judicial Council, and Violent Crimes Compensation Board.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Colleen Murphy                                                                                                              
2811 Illiamna                                                                                                                   
Anchorage, Alaska 99517                                                                                                         
POSITION STATEMENT:  Appointment to the Violent Crimes                                                                        
                          Compensation Board                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Eleanor Andrews                                                                                                             
PO Box 241845                                                                                                                   
Anchorage, Alaska 99524                                                                                                         
POSITION STATEMENT:  Appointment to Alaska Judicial Council                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leslie Wheeler                                                                                                              
PO Box 878885                                                                                                                   
Wasilla, Alaska 99687                                                                                                           
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in favor of Dr. Murphy                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ethel Station                                                                                                               
PO Box 529                                                                                                                      
Sitka, Alaska 99835                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Appointment to the Commission on Judicial                                                                
                          Conduct                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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TAPE 01-8, SIDE A                                                                                                             
Number 001                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN ROBIN TAYLOR called  the Senate Judiciary Committee meeting                                                          
to order at 1:40 p.m.   Senator Donley, Senator Cowdery and Chairman                                                            
Taylor were  present.  Senator Therriault  arrived at 1:44  p.m. and                                                            
Senator Ellis arrived at  1:45 p.m.  The first order of business was                                                            
the appointment of Dr. Colleen Murphy.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DR. COLLEEN MURPHY, Violent  Crimes Compensation Board, said she has                                                            
served  on the  Violent Crimes  Compensation  Board  since 1998  and                                                            
serving on the  board has been a wonderful experience  for her.  She                                                            
said the board members  have been working together in trying to make                                                            
sure that the damage to victims of violent crime are minimized.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TAYLOR  asked  Dr.  Murphy  to  comment  on  some  of  her                                                            
experiences on the Violent Crimes Compensation Board.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR. MURPHY said the administrative  staff of the board is superb and                                                            
should be  recognized for  the work they do.   She said that  a bill                                                            
last year on sexual  assault became an unfunded mandate  for victims                                                            
of sexual assault.  In  the future, funding of forensic examinations                                                            
should be considered  because victims  have not been able  to access                                                            
the board.   Victims  may not be  able to access  the board  because                                                            
they cannot appeal to the  board for their medical expenses.  In the                                                            
last  several  years,  though,  a comprehensive   consistent  policy                                                            
around  mental  health needs  for  victims  have been  developed  in                                                            
helping with posttraumatic stress disorder.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR thanked  Dr. Murphy for her service to the state and                                                            
for her willingness to serve.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   COWDERY   forwarded   Dr.  Colleen   Murphy's   name   for                                                            
consideration  to  the Violent  Crimes  Compensation  Board.   There                                                            
being no objection, Dr. Murphy's name was forwarded.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 387                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. ELEANOR ANDREWS, Alaska  Judicial Council, said she is filling a                                                            
five  month   unexpired  term   of  Ms.  Vickie   Otte,  and   as  a                                                            
prelegislative appointee  she was involved in making recommendations                                                            
to the  governor for  a vacant seat  on the  Anchorage district  and                                                            
superior  court.    She has  also  participated  in  the  review  of                                                            
candidates, orientation, and judicial ethics.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DONLEY  asked  if  she  would  support  putting  a  judge's                                                            
"decision  making   timeliness"  record  into  the  voter's   guide,                                                            
enabling voters to make an informed decision before an election.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDREWS  said she  had talked  with Chief  Justice Fabe  and Mr.                                                            
Bill Cotton, Executive  Director of the Alaska Judicial  Council, as                                                            
to how  this information  is purveyed.   The information  is  on the                                                            
council's web site and  is information the voters should have access                                                            
to.   She  asked  Senator Donley  if  his  concern was  whether  the                                                            
information was readily accessible.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONLEY said the  only way the information is truly available                                                            
to the voters  is by putting it in the voter's guide.   The web site                                                            
is very complicated  and a person has to know exactly  what they are                                                            
looking for  before the information  can be accessed.  He  asked her                                                            
if she  would  support including  the  information  in the  required                                                            
judicial council's report, which is part of the voter's guide.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDREWS said, philosophically,  she would say yes but she had no                                                            
idea of the mechanics for doing this.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONLEY  asked her  how she would deal  with the conflict  of                                                            
interest  questions that  have arisen  over the  past several  years                                                            
concerning  members   of  the  commission  who  have   been  awarded                                                            
"extraordinary  cash amounts and attorney fees" by  certain justices                                                            
that the commission has voted on for retention.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDREWS  said she did not know  if there had been a conflict  of                                                            
interest.   She said an attorney  who wins  a case is entitled  to a                                                            
fee and the amount  of the fee depends on the size  of the case.  In                                                            
and of itself,  she did not see this  as a conflict of interest  and                                                            
she  had not  yet had  an opportunity  to  discuss  this with  other                                                            
council members.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONLEY  asked if she had read  the ethic provisions  for the                                                            
commission.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDREWS replied no.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DONLEY  noted  that  the  ethic  provisions  call  for  the                                                            
avoidance of  the appearance of impropriety.   Last year  one of the                                                            
council members voted on  retention for three supreme court justices                                                            
who the year  before had awarded him  extraordinarily high  attorney                                                            
fees in a case.  Senator  Donley said this raises the question as to                                                            
whether  there was  an appearance  of  impropriety  and whether  the                                                            
commission  followed its own ethical  requirements in deciding  that                                                            
it did not see a problem with that.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDREWS said she could  not comment because she did not have all                                                            
of  the facts.    She  would  ask the  commission  to  address  that                                                            
question at a future board meeting.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONLEY  said the commission's response to  him was that this                                                            
was not important  because the commission  had decided to  recommend                                                            
retention  of the judges  anyway.   Senator Donley  said he  thought                                                            
this  clearly  violated  the commission's  own  ethic  guidelines  -                                                            
allowing  someone to vote,  even though  it was  known it would  not                                                            
make a difference, does not satisfy the ethical requirement.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDREWS commented  that she would also request  that question to                                                            
be put on the agenda of a future board meeting.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONLEY said he would appreciate that.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DONLEY  asked Ms.  Andrews  if she  had seen  the  Internet                                                            
display of the warrant information.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDREWS said  she had not seen it but she had  requested that it                                                            
be discussed at a future board meeting.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DONLEY  noted  that  he had  corresponded  with  the  board                                                            
requesting  that the Internet  site be modified  so the information                                                             
would be more accessible to the public.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   COWDERY   forwarded   Ms.  Eleanor   Andrews'   name   for                                                            
consideration  to  the Alaska  Judicial  Council.   There  being  no                                                            
objection, Ms. Andrews' name was forwarded.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 899                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LESLIE  WHEELER,  Wasilla,  said  she  was  supportive  of  the                                                            
nomination of Dr. Colleen  Murphy to the Violent Crimes Compensation                                                            
Board.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. ETHEL L.  STATON, Commission on  Judicial Conduct, said  she had                                                            
been serving  on the commission for  four years and she felt  it had                                                            
been  a great opportunity  for  her.   She said  Senator Donley  had                                                            
previously asked  her what the commission does about  punishment for                                                            
judges -  why some  punishment is  public and some  is private.   By                                                            
statute,  all commission  complaint records  are confidential  until                                                            
formal charges  have been brought forward.  At the  time of a formal                                                            
charge, all  documents relating  to the charges  and the  subsequent                                                            
formal  hearing are  made public.   No  information  is made  public                                                            
before a formal charge.   The presiding judge may waive the right to                                                            
confidentiality  but this  rarely happens.   Before formal  charges,                                                            
the  commission  has the  power  to issue  informal  adjustments  or                                                            
counseling, which  are a significant part of the commission's  work,                                                            
as they  allow the  commission  to privately  address minor  conduct                                                            
before it  escalates to  serious conduct.   Private adjustments  and                                                            
counseling are  used in isolated instances for such  things as court                                                            
delays,  rudeness,  or temperament  problems.    If records  for  an                                                            
infraction were  required to be made public, the judge  would likely                                                            
feel the need to challenge  the allegation formally, adding cost and                                                            
delay in addressing  a minor infraction.   These factors  might also                                                            
cause the commission to  not act on minor matters.  Informal private                                                            
adjustments  allow the  commission  to act quickly  and responsibly                                                             
without  the burden of  a whole hearing  for the  process.   In 2000                                                            
there were three private sensors of judges.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. STANTON  also answered  Senator Donley's  question about  adding                                                            
more public members  to the commission.  She felt  that three public                                                            
members,  three attorneys,  and three judges  were fair.  The  board                                                            
gets its  packets ten  days in advance,  allowing  them to read  the                                                            
information before  a meeting and, as a public member,  she has been                                                            
treated very  well with all  board members  speaking their  peace on                                                            
issues.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  thanked Ms. Stanton for her service  over the years                                                            
to both the community and Alaska.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 1225                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DONLEY wondered  if  the public  is  not made  aware of  an                                                            
informal resolution, how  this can be balanced with the right of the                                                            
public to know the information  before an election.  He asked if the                                                            
commission felt this was information the public should have.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. STANTON replied that  if formal charges were made, a judge would                                                            
be disciplined  publicly.   A private  hearing is  for a very  minor                                                            
infraction that does not  harm the public.  Public discipline is for                                                            
an infraction that causes harm to the public.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONLEY  asked if there was a policy for putting  information                                                            
about formal  discipline  into the  voters guide  so the public  can                                                            
make an informed decision.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. STANTON said she did  not know the answer but she would research                                                            
the question and furnish the committee with her answer.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   COWDERY  forwarded   Ms.  Ethel   L.  Staton's  name   for                                                            
consideration  to the Commission on  Judicial Conduct.  There  being                                                            
no objection, Ms. Staton's name was forwarded.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1447                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TAYLOR noted that  there was one  other item he wanted  to                                                            
bring before the  committee - the confirmation of  Commissioner Glen                                                            
Godfrey, Department  of Public Safety.   Mr. Godfrey's confirmation                                                             
had  not  been  scheduled  because  Chairman   Taylor  had  received                                                            
information  that had been somewhat  surprising in nature.   He felt                                                            
the  committee  should  have some  advice  before  the confirmation                                                             
hearing.  Chairman  Taylor's thought was to consult  with people who                                                            
had retired  from service  with the  Alaska State  Troopers.   These                                                            
people would  review the information  and then give the committee  a                                                            
recommendation.  He said  this was somewhat unusual but the comments                                                            
were  also unusual  and  he did  not feel  qualified  to make  these                                                            
inquiries.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS  asked if Chairman Taylor  was considering  a contract                                                            
with a former trooper for this inquiry.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR replied  no.  He was suggesting retired Commissioner                                                            
Burton and maybe one or  two senior retired officers that were still                                                            
in Alaska.   Some of the  information may  be specious but  would be                                                            
serious  in nature  if confirmed.    Some of  the matters  are of  a                                                            
personal  nature  and Chairman  Taylor  felt  the  committee  needed                                                            
advice.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS asked what type of arrangement was contemplated.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TAYLOR said  he had  not considered  anything  that had  a                                                            
financial aspect.   He had considered submitting the  information to                                                            
a group of three  or four retired troopers, asking  them to check on                                                            
it.  He did not  want to put anyone in an embarrassing  position and                                                            
during an open public committee  hearing the response could be mean.                                                            
 All information  made  available to  the Chairman  would be  turned                                                            
over to all committee members.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS stated that  he had reservations about going down this                                                            
path.  He had only seen  one critical letter of the commissioner and                                                            
it seemed  to be  a personality  conflict.   Senator  Ellis said  he                                                            
would not be comfortable  that this type of criticism  could trigger                                                            
this type of  activity by the committee.   He said he was  reassured                                                            
that no money would be spent on this matter.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TAYLOR said  he too had  reservations  about this type  of                                                            
approach  but  some  of the  information  he  had  received  was  so                                                            
sensitive in  nature that if it was  brought up at a public  hearing                                                            
it  could turn  out to  be a  "circus."   He  said he  did not  want                                                            
anything of this  nature to happen and he did not  want anyone to be                                                            
embarrassed  in the process.   He said he  would be happy to  accept                                                            
any names the committee felt would do a comprehensive review.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS asked for confirmation that there would be a public                                                               
hearing.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR guaranteed him a hearing would be scheduled.  He                                                                
said he would try to find people who were retired and no longer in                                                              
the system to check into the matter.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
With no further business to come before the committee, CHAIRMAN                                                                 
TAYLOR adjourned the meeting at 2:12 p.m.                                                                                       

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